Yesterday, fellow blogger Yorkshire Pudding published a blog post entitled "Jews" - related to a recent tragic attack outside a synagogue in Manchester, in which two Jewish people were killed and three left in a serious condition after a car ramming and stabbing attack.
YP asks some questions, like: "How can it be that someone who is a native born citizen of Great Britain [or some other country] may self-define more eagerly through their religious heritage than through their nationality?" and "If you were born into a Jewish family in another land - what is your relationship with the state of Israel and [---] why should it be more intense than a Christian's relationship with The Holy Land?" and "[One Jewish woman declared] that she would now have to emigrate from this country where she was born and raised and I thought - why?" (For the full context, I recommend that you read the whole post.)
Very complex issues, not easily answered, and I certainly can't claim to be an expert on any of it. But it did trigger some thoughts for me, and also a memory from my childhood. Because of the complexity, I chose to write my thoughts down in a separate text document first, before sending a comment to YP's blog. And on second thought, I decided to share it here on my own blog as well. (If nothing else, that will make it easier for myself to re-find it later, if I should want to.)
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I'd say it's all deeply rooted in history and inherited traditions even more than in “faith” – and that the bigger question is why some people still persecute others because of their origin (which is really something that none of us have chosen ourselves).
I'd also say that a Christian's relationship with the “Holy Land” is totally different because the Christian tradition from start was to spread their faith to the whole world. (Jesus told his disciples to “go and make disciples of all nations” Matthew 28:19) Jewish history on the other hand goes back to nomad times long before they had a country of their own to begin with. I think a bigger question is why others are still persecuting Jews living elsewhere than in Israel. Considering the history of how the Jews were persecuted under the Nazi regime in Germany back in the 1930s/40s, I'm not surprised at all if a single terrorist attack anywhere in modern times still causes panic among people of Jewish heritage, whether they're very religious or not.
I think my own first awareness of "different" religious beliefs/traditions was when I was about 10 or 11 years old (i.e. in the mid 1960s). We got a new boy in my class in school, who was Jewish (born somewhere in Eastern Europe). Back in those days we were all still going to school half days on Saturdays here in Sweden. We were also still taught “Christianity” rather than “Religion”, and each morning started with singing a psalm, and prayers were said before going to lunch. But unlike the rest of us, this new Jewish boy was excused from attending school on Saturdays (the Jewish Sabbath). And our teacher took some time to explain the difference in traditions to us. I suppose it probably made us a bit jealous that this boy got more “time off” from school than the rest of us – but as far as I can remember, we came to just accept it as a fact. (Or at least I did.)
In 1968, the same year I started “secondary school” (at age 13), no school on Saturdays was introduced nation wide, so then that wasn't an issue any more. And Christianity was replaced by Religion on the curriculum - aiming to give us all a bit more insight into different traditions. (I'm not trying to make out that this solved all problems, though!!)
For my own part, I do identify myself as Christian. (I had a brief period of regarding myself as atheist in my early teens, but then gave that up!)
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PS. "On third thought" it strikes me that there are actually quite a few other people(s) around the world too being (or having been) persecuted for either religious or political reasons, and forced to live with "split identities" - as in not always finding it easy to know whether to identify oneself primarily according to one's religious faith - or lack of it - or one's country of "origin" vs where one happens to have ended up (by choice or by chance!) later in life...
There is solid food for thought in your post, Monica, as was in Neil‘s. Although I blog about my daily life at some detail, I usually do not say much - if anything - about the three „no-nos“ sex, religion and politics, but that doesn‘t mean I do not have thoughts and opinions about these topics.
ReplyDeleteFor many years now I have not been part of an organised religion anymore, but I grew up a protestant Christian („evangelisch“ in German) and still mostly identify with the beliefs I first learned as a little girl, and my faith is based on a deep personal relationship with God, whom I perceive as a loving fatherly presence and whose help, protection and guidance I experience daily.
Having „come out“ like this on your blog, I want to add that I can‘t get my head round persecution of any type, be it for religious, ethnic or any other reason. And being German, I don‘t want to comment on Jews for fear of being misunderstood.
Thank you for your post today, Monica.
And thank you for reading and sharing, Meike!
DeleteI was "born into" the Church of Sweden - protestant/Lutheran, and "state church" here until 2000, which meant one became member automatically if one's parents were. My parents were never active church-goers but my p. grandmother was. What little I knew about God and church before school was probably mostly from her. (I remember she used to read children's evening prayers with me when I was staying there.) But as I said in the post, Christianity was also still an official "foundation" for my six first years in school, including both stories from the Bible and hymns and prayers. In my teens, via friends, I came to join a "free" evangelical church; followed later by three others of different denonimations (one at time!) as I moved etc. But I always also remained member of the Church of Sweden, even after church and state were officially "separated" in 2000. I'm also still member of the last free church where I was active in the 1990s. And neither decision just out of laziness, but rather from still feeling a bond. Nowadays I only "visit" occasionally; but it was mostly physical health problems that changed my habits.
A thoughtful post, Monica. Jews cannot be 'placed' geographically, whereas the common, if mistaken, categories are 'Scottish - Presbyterian, Welsh - Baptists, Irish, Spanish, Italian, French - Catholics, Russians, East Europeans - Communist, and so forth. It all falls apart quite quickly and doesn't answer why Jews feel Jewish first and any other nationality second. I think your depiction of them as nomads provides the clearest answer. The restlessness and unbelonging lies deep in the bones.
ReplyDeleteJanice, we live in a changing world, with a lot of migration in later years - which has also affected churches and other places of worship. From my upper teens I remember the "shock" of a mosque being built in my home town. And in the town where I lived between 20-30, the Baptist church which I used to attend there is nowadays home to a Catholic congregation; whereas the baptists (nation wide) have joined forces with a former "mission" church to form a new denomination known as the Equmenia church. Not all easy to keep up!
DeleteHere, there are more and more hate crimes (crimes against people because of their race of beliefs) almost every week, a church is attacked or blown up. And people attacked. It is awful and getting worse.
ReplyDeleteGinny, I can't recall that we've had any church actually blown up this far; but gang violence and rivalry has certainly increased a lot over the past couple of decades.
DeleteI totally agree that Jewish people place a lot of emphasis on their tradition. Having been driven from one country to another over the centuries, Israel was at last a place they could call their own. (I've said as much on YP's blog.) Quite why they have always been the target of hate because of their faith is inexplicable. There should be room on this planet for all kinds of faith.
ReplyDeleteAddy, I feel I have more or less given up trying to "understand" the situation in Israel/Gaza - I just sincerely *wish* they could come to some agreement allowing both Jews and Palestinians to co-exist in peace...
DeleteOf course I read this blogpost with much interest Monica. You have contemplated the points I raised in a calm and intelligent manner but the main "take away" is that this zone is indeed complicated and fraught with pitfalls. However, I do think it is healthy to open up fair-minded debate. That way lies better understanding.
ReplyDeleteNeil, while in the past I have studied both some history and some theology on academic level, and believe that some understanding of the past can often be helpful to get a better grip of the "here and now" -- I have to admit that the field of "politics" has never really been my area of expertise. Sometimes it does feel that all one can do is pray for divine intervention - whether one believes in it or not! ;)
Deletethis is too deep for me to comment on in the condition my brain is in right now. I just have never understood, why humans, all humans, all over the planet, dislike or hate another person because of their faith, their nationality, the color of their skin, or their beliefs of whom or what is right in politics. so add opinions in the list is people hated for them.. I grew up in Georgia, and during my school years from 1950 to 1962, our schools and churches were divided to areas they lived in, to churches and schools of like skin color, like Faith.
ReplyDeleteSandra, even "in the condition your brain is in right now", I think your comment covers it well! ... For my own part I had Time To Think this weekend, because of a storm raging outdoors - but no need for me to go out in it, and not causing me any indoors trouble (electricity and internet etc working as usual)... In my childhood (pre-teen years) I don't think I had ever met anyone of different skin colour in real life yet. There were quite a few immigrants among my classmates in school, but most came from Finland, or else from other European countries. They did not "look" different, and children are usually quick to pick up a new language.
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